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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well that was a thrilling episode. Avilio took his chance and made a kill. Lives are just so fragile in this show.. Kinda felt bad for this woman...family drama can really be a pain to deal with. Fio's life isn't going to be same ever again... I'm also still curious to see what Fango's next move is, the guy is so mysterious. |
Stark700Aug 19, 2016 12:11 PM
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| I like it how Avilio only does the killing for his revenge himself when it's actually necessary and how he instead prefers to manipulate the Vanettis into killing each other; he's doing a damn good job of it so far, though Fango is still an unpredictable variable who will no doubt complicate things for Avilio soon, and that's before considering that Avilio has undoubtedly got to personally deal with Nero in the end. |
| I kinda want Avilio to fail more and more. Going way too easy for him and he fucked up people's lifes, he is doomed to die atm. I'd be sad if Nero dies. |
| I wonder what's going to happen to the baby. |
| Angelo is finally done playing games and is off to a quest to break Nero |
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| Oh shit Avilio the god I didn't expect Fio killing Ronaldo, really sad scene |
| It's like all of these people are Avilio's pawns, and he's moving all the pieces into the right places to get them to kill each other. He's pretty smart in that regard, since that would cause people to not suspect him of killing everyone. Things are going a bit too smoothly for him though, so at some point I'm expecting his plans to run into some complications. In fact, I'd prefer it if that happened, it would make the story more exciting to see how Avilio would deal with that. Otherwise, the story would just become boring if nothing ever goes wrong and all of his plans play out perfectly. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
| "I have a little brother like him, I'll let you meet him soon" That line got me incredibely hyped This was definitely the best episode of the series. Angelo is really taking control over everything. Oh and the part where he could tell Frate was hiding the gun was amazing. |
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| Damn, Avilio is manipulating everyone so badly. This episode was intense. |
| Grimgar season 2 please!!!! |
| Damn I love this show, this is my favorite episode so far. I like how Avilio is maximizing his revenge to the fullest by throwing nero into despair with all the killings in his family. Fio is being shipped off away from the battlezone, I wonder if we will see her again. Can't wait for next episode! |
Smudy said: I kinda want Avilio to fail more and more. Going way too easy for him and he fucked up people's lifes, he is doomed to die atm. Of course he's crazy, he saw his family die at the hands of Vanetti ... the only person I feel sorry is for Fio that don't have anything to do with the death of his family and is one of the people who suffer most from all this, and still had to marry the clown Ronaldo. PS: Finally Ronaldo is dead |
| The series gets better and better with every episode. Angelo is a master manipulator. His final line, "I'll be your brother from now on", gave me chills down my spine. Literally everything for the sake of revenge. |
| I feel sorry for Fio... She's the innocent one in this whole family drama. Avilio is really sly, though. Everything's running smoothly and according to his plan.... |
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| I agree with the Fango variable, and we got Vanetti and Nero secured for sure, but he wants the fourth! I am so glad those two are dead, too bad Fio is broken now... This pacing is set so well, these 6 episodes are gonna a be intense as the last 7! |
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| This episode was very good 3 deads all "done" by Avilio im really enjoying this anime alot, Angelo is playing the manipulating game! "I have a little brother like him, I'll let you meet him soon" i was like "DAMMMM SON!" NEXT EPISODE PLS! :> |
iTzKenzoAug 19, 2016 3:20 PM
| I thought there was serious death flags for Fio, but it looks like she made it. |
| "Genki is Life, Genki is Love" |
tywhoppity said: I thought there was serious death flags for Fio, but it looks like she made it. Maybe angelo will meet her later xD since she is pregnant and that kid needs a Father-ish presence..... |
Alvoso said: imo this show is pretty overrated just because it is 'dark' or 'mature' doesn't mean it's necessarily good a 7.85 on MAL is overrated? okay. |
Alvoso said: imo this show is pretty overrated just because it is 'dark' or 'mature' doesn't mean it's necessarily good y but in this case the show is both good and dark |
| Tbh, I was rooting for Angelo to extract his revenge. But this ep made me sympathize with the three Vanetti siblings. Even Nero showed remorse while recounting his 'first job' to Angelo in the camp, while he just manipulates others to spread chaos. Also, wasn't Nero running from Orco, when Fango took over, could he not join back Vanettis, coz Frate was hunting Nero to avoid war with Orco, and therefore prevent Galassias intervention??? Poor Fio, ultimately had to soil her hand with murder to save(unsuccessfully) her family.What was the note handed to Fio in the bouquet?? |
Alvoso said: imo this show is pretty overrated just because it is 'dark' or 'mature' doesn't mean it's necessarily good Overrated? This show isn't even that popular, and the MAL score isn't even that high (7.85) |
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| This show has gotten stale and predictable, kinda a shame since I was pretty hyped for it on this first episode. |
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| Angelo went in this episode. He first used Volpe to destroy any (slim) chance left for reconciliation between the Vanetti brothers just to kill the poor lad once the job was done. Then he used Fio to take care of Rolando and finally even forced Nero to kill Frate himself. Apparently he wants to kill Nero physically as well as psychologically. Yeah I'd say that was a pretty badass episode. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
Buck_Wade said: Yeah but he's already become buddies with Nero, was there really a need to make Nero kill Frate when the little brother was just gonna leave?geralt said: Angelo went in this episode. He first used Volpe to destroy any (slim) chance left for reconciliation between the Vanetti brothers just to kill the poor lad once the job was done. Then he used Fio to take care of Rolando and finally even forced Nero to kill Frate himself. Apparently he wants to kill Nero physically as well as psychologically. Yeah I'd say that was a pretty badass episode. I don't think it's just that. Angelo needs Nero to get close to the Don of the Vanettis too. Seems to me like he's enjoying making him suffer. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
| Poor Fio family is broken and has to raise a baby by herself |
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| Nero just never die now can't he. |
| What happened with Nero's sister and Ronaldo, was exactly the same in The Sopranos. If we replace Nero with Tony. |
| Best episode so far. |
| Avilio breaking down the Vannetti Family from the inside. So much for family. R.I.P Volpe, Ronaldo & Frate . Did Fango get a make over? He looks different. Avilio getting closer & closer into the family. Revenge is getting closer. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Crazy episode. I liked that Fio played a role finally, and that the significance of her marriage with Ronaldo finally was acknowledged and made relevant. I do feel very bad for her though; she was trying to keep her brothers from killing each other and to keep her family apart, to the point that she even killed Ronaldo for it, but it was all for nothing in the end. Avilio has definitely taken a big step forward in tearing apart the Vanetti family. However, I too really hope that something goes wrong for him soon. If all of his schemes go according to plan, I'll be a little frustrated. The moment when he noticed Frate's eyes darting to the gun was really cool though, and the "I'll let you meet him soon" line was perfect. We're now officially in the second half of the show. I'm hopeful for some real complications to come up soon, specifically with Avilio. Right now, the disputes and politics of the three families seems pretty trivial while Avilio's plans are the real focus, and with those going unhindered, things might go by a little too quickly and easily. |
| So the Vanetti brothers are fighting for their lives – both fear being killed by the other. And we have nekoing Angelo to thank for that. Fio tries to bring Frate and Nero together to have them talk things out. That succeeds as Nero decides to talk things out with Ronaldo. But Angelo is a bastard who is trying to keep them fighting. He uses Volpe as an assassin and has him attack Ronaldo to make it look like Nero is out for Frate and Ronaldo. The attempt fails and Angelo kills Volpe and then hangs him from a bridge to make it look like to Nero that Frate will not stop until Nero's dead. And then Angelo gets sent to Fio and Ronaldo as a messenger from Nero who is supposedly willing to talk things out with Ronaldo. But the flowers came with a message probably written by Angelo with Nero on board. And Fio kills Ronaldo. She cares about the family which made it possible for them to tell her to kill Ronaldo, and eliminating Ronaldo is part of the story Angelo is writing up. He has Nero kill Frate too. He removes the bullets from Frate's gun and creates a shootout situation where only Nero is loaded. This kills Frate and now Angelo is Nero's brother, or so he claims. The story Fio has to tell is that Frate killed Ronaldo and Nero killed Frate to show his loyalty to the Galasias. Of course this isn't exactly what Fio wanted. Angelo had her kill Ronaldo by probably telling her that this'll solve things. But then she killed a Galasia so she won't be getting off easily among her in-laws if this news leaks out. So Angelo has Frate framed for this act which also works for his own plan. Fio wanted her brothers to live peacefully like a family but Angelo created such a situation where it wasn't possible, all so that he can get closer to Nero for his revenge. But will the Galasias buy this story that easily? Wouldn't they suspect Nero? Nero killed Ronaldo and Frate and had his sister tell them this made up story. Nero is especially suspicious because he was being specifically targeted by Ronaldo. But if things end up working out well then the Vanettis would be running themselves rather than being run by a Galasia puppet. Although I fear for Fio because she's probably going back to her in-laws and things may not work out perfectly. Another thing Angelo is doing here is making Nero suffer. He will eventually have him meet his little brother, but he's also making Nero and Vincent suffer by killing family members – he killed Frate and now Fio is in a dangerous situation. So his revenge isn't only killing those who killed his family, he's also trying to make them suffer and get to know how it feels to lose family members. He gloriously thwarted Fio's plan to have the family live peacefully with everyone alive like a family should. And we have Fango out there who just wants to stir up trouble. He's on Nero's side and with Nero now back in the family after eliminating Frate, this could lead to an alliance between the Fangos and the Vanettis. But it depends on Vincent who is still alive apparently. Angelo sure is one evil bastard. His plan is going perfectly right now. |
| The amount of manipulating that Angelo is doing though! |
| Episode was 10/10. |
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| I honestly need to rewatch some key scenes from this show. The events that lead to this whole thing feel really messy for me right now. Apart from that, other stuff don't sound beliavable for me. Anyway, I have to rewatch and make the "confusion" (in my head) clear. |
| "i have a little brother like him, i'll let you meet him soon" aw man |
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